{ localUrl: '../page/3yz.html', arbitalUrl: 'https://arbital.com/p/3yz', rawJsonUrl: '../raw/3yz.json', likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'page', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], pageId: '3yz', edit: '1', editSummary: '', prevEdit: '0', currentEdit: '1', wasPublished: 'true', type: 'comment', title: '"Suggest modifying the first..."', clickbait: '', textLength: '349', alias: '3yz', externalUrl: '', sortChildrenBy: 'recentFirst', hasVote: 'false', voteType: '', votesAnonymous: 'false', editCreatorId: 'EricRogstad', editCreatedAt: '2016-06-01 22:53:01', pageCreatorId: 'EricRogstad', pageCreatedAt: '2016-06-01 22:53:01', seeDomainId: '0', editDomainId: 'EliezerYudkowsky', submitToDomainId: '0', isAutosave: 'false', isSnapshot: 'false', isLiveEdit: 'true', isMinorEdit: 'false', indirectTeacher: 'false', todoCount: '0', isEditorComment: 'false', isApprovedComment: 'true', isResolved: 'false', snapshotText: '', anchorContext: 'If we now reconsider the arguments for "rescuing the utility function", we find that we have more choices beyond "looking for the closest thing to caloric" and "giving up entirely on warm feelings"\\. An additional option is to try to 'rescue' the intuitive sense of warmth, but not the caloric fluid and the explicit beliefs about it\\. We could see this as retracing our steps after being led down a garden\\-path of bad reasoning \\- we started with the intuitively good feelings about warmth, came to believe a false model about the causes of warmth, reacted emotionally to this false model, and developed an explicit moral theory about caloric fluid\\. The extrapolated\\-volition model of normativity \\(what we would want\\* if we knew all the facts, etcetera\\) suggests that we could see the reasoning after adopting the false caloric model as 'mistaken' and not rescue it\\. If we were dealing with preverbal intuitions and emotions that were in some way running skew to reality, our only alternatives would be to rescue the intuitions as best we could, or else give up entirely on that emotion and value\\. 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