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text: 'On the pro side: The whole "farmed animal welfare" field in the US gets less than $100MM per year, and makes material changes to how Americans eat.\n\nIf all ~200M adult Americans gave \\$1/day to animal welfare charities instead of changing their diets further, that would fund about \\$7 billion of ***annual*** activism on this. That's huge. That's more than 100X what it is now. That's [all US federal election expenditures](https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/cost.php) *during a presidential election year* (but including house and senate races). That's more than twice [MIT's entire budget](http://web.mit.edu/facts/financial.html).\n\nIn present value terms, at a 5% annual discount rate, that's equivalent to a one-time expenditure of \\$140 billion. That's way more than the [Manhattan Project](https://www.ctbto.org/nuclear-testing/history-of-nuclear-testing/manhattan-project/) cost, adjusted for inflation.\n\nSeems plausible that if you could scale up current efforts to that size at current levels of cost-effectiveness, it would be equivalent in welfare impact to getting Americans off factory-farmed meat and eggs altogether. This isn't a room for more funding argument - you'd hit diminishing returns way before that point - but it does suggest that the \\$1/day offset argument is not crazy *on current margins*, so long as you're willing to switch strategies if and when these orgs stop seeming cash-constrained (or, if you're willing to give a larger lump sum now, while such opportunities are still available.)',
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