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If you haven't yet checked for factors, it's conceivable to you that 91 is either a [ prime number] or a [ composite number], even though only one of these scenarios is [ logically possible].\n\nWhether 91 is prime or compositive is a logical consequence of the definitions of 'prime' and 'composite', but it's not literally and explicitly written into our brain's representations of the definitions of 'prime' and 'composite' that 91 is a prime/composite number. If you can conceive of 91 being prime, this illustrates that, in your own mind, the property of 91-ness is not the same writing on your map as the property of composite-ness, but it doesn't demonstrate that it's logically or physically possible for 91 to be composite. If you can *conceive* of a scenario in which X is true and Y is false, this demonstrates mainly that X and Y have different [10b intensional definitions] inside your own mind; you have separate concepts in your mind for X and Y. It doesn't demonstrate that a world where 'X but not Y' is logically possible, let alone physically possible, or that X and Y refer to two different things, etcetera. \n\nLabeling a scenario 'conceivable' or saying 'we can conceive that' introduces a scenario for discussion or refutation, *without* assuming in the introduction that the scenario is logically possible (let alone physically possible, or at all plausible in our world). Since many true facts are also plausible, physically possible, logically possible, and conceivable, introducing a scenario as 'conceivable' also does not imply that it is false. It means that someone found themselves able to imagine something, perhaps a true thing, perhaps without visualizing it in the complete detail that would reveal its impossibility; but if all we know at the start is that someone felt like they could imagine something, we'll call it 'conceivable' or 'imaginable'.', metaText: '', isTextLoaded: 'true', isSubscribedToDiscussion: 'false', isSubscribedToUser: 'false', isSubscribedAsMaintainer: 'false', discussionSubscriberCount: '2', maintainerCount: '1', userSubscriberCount: '0', lastVisit: '2016-02-16 03:54:40', hasDraft: 'false', votes: [], voteSummary: 'null', muVoteSummary: '0', voteScaling: '0', currentUserVote: '-2', voteCount: '0', lockedVoteType: '', maxEditEver: '0', redLinkCount: '0', lockedBy: '', lockedUntil: '', nextPageId: '', prevPageId: '', usedAsMastery: 'false', proposalEditNum: '0', permissions: { edit: { has: 'false', reason: 'You don't have domain permission to edit this page' }, proposeEdit: { has: 'true', reason: '' }, delete: { has: 'false', reason: 'You don't have domain permission to delete this page' }, comment: { has: 'false', reason: 'You can't comment in this domain because you are not a member' }, proposeComment: { has: 'true', reason: '' } }, summaries: {}, creatorIds: [ 'EliezerYudkowsky', 'AlexeiAndreev' ], childIds: [], parentIds: [ 'epistemology' ], commentIds: [ '129' ], questionIds: [], tagIds: [], relatedIds: [], markIds: [], explanations: [], learnMore: [], requirements: [], subjects: [], lenses: [], lensParentId: '', pathPages: [], learnMoreTaughtMap: {}, learnMoreCoveredMap: {}, learnMoreRequiredMap: {}, editHistory: {}, domainSubmissions: {}, answers: [], answerCount: '0', commentCount: '0', newCommentCount: '0', linkedMarkCount: '0', changeLogs: [ { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '3991', pageId: 'conceivability', userId: 'AlexeiAndreev', edit: '4', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2015-12-16 17:53:16', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '3990', pageId: 'conceivability', userId: 'AlexeiAndreev', edit: '0', type: 'newAlias', createdAt: '2015-12-16 17:53:15', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '254', pageId: 'conceivability', userId: 'AlexeiAndreev', edit: '1', type: 'newParent', createdAt: '2015-10-28 03:46:51', auxPageId: 'epistemology', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '1686', pageId: 'conceivability', userId: 'EliezerYudkowsky', edit: '3', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2015-08-12 01:56:34', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '1685', pageId: 'conceivability', userId: 'EliezerYudkowsky', edit: '2', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2015-07-01 19:47:56', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' }, { likeableId: '0', likeableType: 'changeLog', myLikeValue: '0', likeCount: '0', dislikeCount: '0', likeScore: '0', individualLikes: [], id: '1684', pageId: 'conceivability', userId: 'EliezerYudkowsky', edit: '1', type: 'newEdit', createdAt: '2015-07-01 19:30:52', auxPageId: '', oldSettingsValue: '', newSettingsValue: '' } ], feedSubmissions: [], searchStrings: {}, hasChildren: 'false', hasParents: 'true', redAliases: {}, improvementTagIds: [], nonMetaTagIds: [], todos: [], slowDownMap: 'null', speedUpMap: 'null', arcPageIds: 'null', contentRequests: {} }